Karr now knows that he was just another "strange oddity stuck through with a straight pin" in Samantha Spiegel's macabre collection of little girl killers and mass murderers. Karr says he's relieved that he's fallen out of Spiegel's murderous menagerie.
INTERNATIONAL (Lei Sussurra) December 19, 2010 -- In an odd twist, Samantha Spiegel, who said in the spring of 2010 that she was threatened by John Mark Karr who she'd planned to marry, reveals that she's no stranger to romancing child killers and mass murderers according to SF Weekly who dubbed her a killer groupie. It seems she was disposing herself of Karr, through a tough restraining order, to make way for her murderous circle of friends that includes little girl killer Richard Allen Davis, the night stalker Richard Ramirez and cult leader [sound familiar?] Charles Manson. Notably, Spiegel seems only to be drawn to child killers who have murdered little girls.
Karr responding to the recent article said, "Spiegel isn't the first killer groupie in my life and she won't be the last. There's been a long line of them since 2006 and they know who they are. These people are portrayed by the media and others as innocent little victims when in fact, their characters "precede them" with their own words and actions as proof."
Samantha Spiegel smiles at the camera like a supermodel, with a letter to a killer in hand, as SF Weekly photographs her delivery to the deadly. Spiegel expressed to SF Weekly that she was "hoping to receive responses to letters she sent to three men: Charles Manson, the leader of the Manson Family cult who was found guilty of conspiring to murder; Richard Ramirez (the Night Stalker), a serial killer and rapist on death row at San Quentin; and Richard Allen Davis, also on death row for the 1993 kidnapping and murder of 12-year-old Polly Klaas."
Possibly the most bizarre revelation, if any one could be singled out, is Spiegel's desire to have the baby of Klaas killer, Richard Allen Davis. SF Weekly reported, "Samantha told Davis that she was also hoping to take things to the next level, and says they entered into a relationship she considers monogamous. Lately, they've been discussing ways to get her into the jail for a visit. Since she is not a spouse, the visit would not be considered conjugal. But she is hoping they can arrange to meet face to face. She's already thinking about the possibility of having Davis' child, if he wants one."
Marc Klaas is not impressed that Spiegel wants to carry on the Davis name by having his daughter's killer's baby. Klaas said to SF Weekly's Lauren Smiley of Spiegel that she is "a ghoulish young thing who probably won't hit 25 the way she's playing life." Klaas continued, "This is an extremely disturbed girl." Klaas warned, "Anyone who wants to mess with guys like [Charles] Manson, [Richard] Ramirez, and [Richard Allen] Davis has a death wish.” Karr's name was not mentioned in the killer equation.
When asked if he thinks Spiegel is placing herself in danger in corresponding with Manson, Ramirez and Davis, Karr replied, "Davis once said in a New York Post interview that he hoped someone would "pop Karr" which is prison talk that meant he wanted someone to kill me. I was concerned when I first heard about his threat because I had no idea if he had people on the outside who would carry out his wishes."
The rich and now famous Spiegel was showcased like a rising star on Nancy Grace, Fox News, CBS News, Inside Edition, and The Today Show, just to name a few. As Spiegel spread the gospel of Karr cult allegations and death threats in numerous television interviews after filing a restraining order that prompted the police to rush to her protection, the innocently portrayed youth was likely simultaneously corresponding with convicted cult leaders, serial killers and child killers.
Spiegel now seems to contradict the concerns that led her to ask a San Francisco court to keep Karr away forever. Spiegel expressed her lingering feelings for Karr who was the subject of a stay away order that included an exhaustive list of Spiegel spots, listing even her old high school. SF Weekly reported: "The song ends, and Samantha waxes melancholy. "I don't know if I'm over John completely," she says, referring to Karr."
Samantha Spiegel can rest easy that she will never have contact of any kind with John Mark Karr again thanks to her heavyweight restraining order. Finally safe from Karr, could she possibly be more at ease surrounded by her killer connections: Davis, Ramirez and Manson?
In the same article, Spiegel confirmed that she was the one who initiated contact with Karr. SF Weekly reported, "He had worked briefly at her elementary school, Convent of the Sacred Heart in San Francisco, when she was in fourth grade. She remembers having a crush on him back then. A decade later, after watching him confess to the murder on the news, Samantha — then 16 — was compelled to reconnect."
Karr responded, "Reconnect? How is that possible when I never knew Samantha Spiegel when she was a fourth grader at Convent of the Sacred Heart in the first place?"
During the Spiegel allegations, Karr was portrayed as a wanted criminal by mainstream media. Karr responded, "I had to fly from Paris to Atlanta to be on the receiving end of a restraining order issued by a person who was still over two thousand miles away when the papers were presented to me." Karr said that he returned to Paris when he found he'd flown from Europe to America to face charges that did not exist. All that awaited Karr was what might be the world's longest distance stay away order in history with Karr in Europe over five thousand miles away from Spiegel at the time the restraining order was filed in San Francisco, California.
"It just goes to show you that people are allowed to have at me and be protected by the law in the process. This is a classic case of how vulnerable I am to the general public who can get away with doing anything they want to me while law enforcement and the media supports and promotes them." stated Karr.
Karr said in a May article of the twenty year old overnight sensation, "It can never be proven that I am a cult leader who instructs my followers to kill my enemies and seek out little girls for my exploitation. I am amazed that reputable media would grant airtime, much less credence, to any random person who makes unsubstantiated wild claims against a private citizen with no proof whatsoever to back up the lies that are flowing from them. As I have stated in the past, I am the subject of a witch hunt that has dragged me from my private life with the intent to display me to the world like some strange oddity stuck through with a straight pin in my enemies' collection."
Karr now knows that he was just another "strange oddity stuck through with a straight pin" in Samantha Spiegel's macabre collection of little girl killers and mass murderers. Karr says he's relieved that he's fallen out of Spiegel's murderous menagerie. Karr's prophetic statement about the media's responsibility now makes sense.
"Why didn't someone look closer at the background of this person at the time I suffered through a criminal investigation and was plastered publicly in the media by her outrageous claims? I could have gone to prison while Spiegel interacted with child killers and serial murderers galore from the comfort of her Marina District home. Please help me understand how a person who interacts with murderers and wants to have the baby of the killer of a twelve year old girl could possibly need a restraining order to protect herself from me? People need to ask WHY a twenty year old girl is interested especially in men who kill little girls. If anyone needs the protection of a restraining order, I do," said Karr.
Karr says the new revelation expressed by Spiegel to SF Weekly is a buried story that no one will ever know about. He says he resents the wide scale damage that the media inflicted in his life in the spring of 2010 when accusations flew that he was the leader of a cult that abducted little girls for sex with devoted members that would kill all those who stood in their beloved leader's way.
Karr responded, "Where's the media now? They were quick to jump to conclusions about my guilt last spring. Now that Spiegel has shown her true colors, everyone's laying low. It almost makes me think that some in the media have an agenda to criminalize me yet hide the truth about my accusers."
Karr said that he was told by the Karr's in Atlanta that members of the media camped out in rented cars in front of Wex Karr's Atlanta home for days during the Spiegel media flurry, nabbing impromptu interviews with the ailing 89 year old father of Karr as he walked to the street to check his mail. The elder Karr said afterward that he couldn't remember what he had said to any of them. News organizations canvassed properties of the Karr's throughout metro Atlanta, knocking on doors and asking tenants if they had seen John Mark Karr. Members of the media visited an East Atlanta business associated with the Karr's, offering cash to anyone who might see Karr or know of his whereabouts that was rumored to be in Atlanta at the time.
Karr's last words, "My prediction is that someday one of these killer groupies will be the person who ultimately kills ME. When that day comes, nothing will be done about it just as nothing is done now to any stranger in the public who violates my privacy and accuses me of anything they can dream up. If they can imagine it, law enforcement and the public will believe it and the media will sell the story as fact to the world."
Read SF Weekly's full articles:
Killer Groupie Samantha SpiegelBy Ashley Harrell, SF Weekly
http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-12-08/news/killer-groupie-samantha-spiegel/Polly Klaas' Father Calls Woman Dating His Daughter's Killer An 'Extremely Disturbed Girl'By Lauren Smiley, SF Weekly
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/12/polly_klaas_father_calls_woman.phpLei Sussurra
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